It's a little less scary to contemplate when I think in terms of what Mark Twain said about not fearing death or dying. I know I was nothing before I was conceived in my mother's womb; and it did not distress or discomfort me in the least, for many, many trillions of eons of time. I think Twain's attitude was that he'd been 'dead for billions of years and it didn't inconvenience me in the least.'
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Nothing.
by Narkissos inperhaps this paradoxical "topic" is one with which we here have dealt a little more, or a little more consciously, than the average population.. we used to have our heads full of beliefs (which we called "truth") in every direction: on theology, on cosmology, on paleontology, on past history, on so-called prophetic future, on heaven above, on earth, on she'ol beneath.
on many things -- current events, traditions, other peoples' beliefs and behaviours -- we had strong opinions which were directly or indirectly (the famous "conscience" matters) part of the same deal.
and of course our life was filled with activities and relationships, a community of "friends," people to "help" or "teach," etc.. then, gradually or suddenly, we came to suspect, often with a measure of terror, that all of this was not what we had thought and might sooner or later turn into... nothing.. this "nothing" is perhaps one of the most scary thoughts to people contemplating leaving the org one way or another.
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Happy Mother's Day To All The Loving, Caring Moms Here!
by Madame Quixote in.
happy, happy mom's day to you all!.
from one mom to the rest!.
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What a beautiful image, PS!
It reminds me of Mary Cassat's work:
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Why the hell did they leave their kid on her own in that apartment?
by needproof inwell, a big story here in the uk is that of missing three year old girl madeleine mccann, who was abducted from a hotel room in portugal whilst on holiday.
i don't know if international posters know much about this story but the news is massive here and top businessmen, sports stars and celebs have put up over 2 million as a reward for her safe return.
this is the map of where she went missing: .
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Madame Quixote
It is possible that they sold the child, or abused her to death, or any number of such things, and simply didn't want to get caught. Sometimes parents who report missing children are caught in such situations.
I can't imagine anyone being stupid enough to leave such young kids unattended, even if the doors were locked. it might not be as stupid as it seems, but rather, very crafty of them, if the child happened to have died from such neglect and they knew what the consequences would be to get caught. In such cases, instead of lots of well-deserved reprobation, they get all kinds of sympathy (and search and rescue crap going) while deflecting attention from their own neglectfulness or abusiveness.
Does anyone remember the U.S. parents who went to prison for such a thing? It was on the national news here a couple years ago . . .I believe there was a NC couple recently who did this and went to prison for it.
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MOM! Gone but not forgotten.
by Blueblades inshe is gone but never forgotten.
i meditate today on my mom and wish her a happy mother's day wherever she may be since her passing 33 years ago!
blueblades.
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It sounds like she had a very loving, productive, full, rich life.
Glad you have good thoughts of her today (and everyday, I am sure)!
Sorry that her life was cut short.
Enjoy your family and your good memories today, (((blueblades)))!
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Happy Mother's Day To All The Loving, Caring Moms Here!
by Madame Quixote in.
happy, happy mom's day to you all!.
from one mom to the rest!.
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Happy, happy mom's day to you all!
From one Mom to the rest!
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Any Non Religious Single Women on here?
by What-A-Coincidence ini've been on dates with very nice women.
but we just don't match up in the beliefs departments.
so...any single non-religious women on here?
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Isn't there some kind of search function on this board to find the atheist posters?
I am an atheist female, 42, not seeking the company of men, but if I come across any like-minded females (who are seeking the co. of men), I'll point them your way, WAC.
Good luck, sweety!
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For those who've settled on 'no contact' with their JW families . . .
by Madame Quixote infor whatever reason.
do you question it sometimes and think you should try to "reach out" to them again?
i was this morning and then came across the thread above and was reminded why i need to stay away.. but, still, i read threads of people who have managed somehow, despite being d'f'ed or faded or d'aed and think i might try to be more understanding, supportive, reach out or something.. despite all the problems growing up in a fairly dysfunctional family, i still feel a deep attachment to them and hope against hope that they might come to their senses (if they ever had any to begin with) and get help and leave the cult of jehobo; and we might reconcile,etc., etc., blah blah blah dream dream dream.. i deeply wish for them all freedom and happiness and healing and feel so helpless to free them of their bonds and yet see so much possibility for it, if only they could be reached somehow.
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That is sad, cab. Tell your wife I am sorry and know how she feels. I have missed out on almost every major event in my siblings' and nephews' lives.
It is very, very hard dealing with the loss of hope for reaching one's neices and nephews. You know they are being brainwashed and living the same or similar kind of hell to what you grew up with and feel that no matter what you do, it's a catch 22.
I too have shed tears over them. All I can do is hope that one day they will see how unloving the organization really is and recognize it's a cult and find some better alternatives. Hopefully, they will want to reach out to me if that happens. And even if it doesn't, I hope they will find freedom and happiness one day.
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Senior Prom For My Daughter
by Madame Quixote ineverything that i would have liked to have had on my senior prom night is happening for my daughter tonight:.
she has a date with a real boyfriend;.
she has a bunch of friends to hang out with;.
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Right after I posted that, she called me on my cell; she's on her way home (11:27 p.m. where I am) and wants me to take her to an after-prom party at a friend's. Imagine that happening in the world of JDubs!
I can't wait to see them in their outfits together; I'll try to get a piccie and post it here.
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Senior Prom For My Daughter
by Madame Quixote ineverything that i would have liked to have had on my senior prom night is happening for my daughter tonight:.
she has a date with a real boyfriend;.
she has a bunch of friends to hang out with;.
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Doubtless, she is out drinking and hunting for the nearest tattoo/piercing parlors and will come home with a goodwrench tire in each of her dainty earlobes; she is into punk style, afterall!
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For those who've settled on 'no contact' with their JW families . . .
by Madame Quixote infor whatever reason.
do you question it sometimes and think you should try to "reach out" to them again?
i was this morning and then came across the thread above and was reminded why i need to stay away.. but, still, i read threads of people who have managed somehow, despite being d'f'ed or faded or d'aed and think i might try to be more understanding, supportive, reach out or something.. despite all the problems growing up in a fairly dysfunctional family, i still feel a deep attachment to them and hope against hope that they might come to their senses (if they ever had any to begin with) and get help and leave the cult of jehobo; and we might reconcile,etc., etc., blah blah blah dream dream dream.. i deeply wish for them all freedom and happiness and healing and feel so helpless to free them of their bonds and yet see so much possibility for it, if only they could be reached somehow.
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I cant believe that families still shun disfellowshiped ones, depending on the reason, if of course the disfellowshiped person hates and is putting everyone else down for their beliefs that is a reason you wouldn't want them around. But to shun them because they choose not to be a JW and is still the same person without the tag, then they need to learn about Christ's love.
I wonder if you realize that you are contradicting yourself there, timmycat, because Christ's love includes loving your enemies?
So what's Christian about shunning someone who disagrees with your beliefs, even if the person hates you or does put you down? True Christians wouldn't shun anyone for that, but would rather love them and turn the other cheek; Jehovah's Witnesses don't do that; instead they judge, gossip, blame, and shun all who disagree with them, and they blame the person being shunned rather than recognizing that their own behavior is unChristian, as you attempted to say, (although you still contradicted yourself in saying it). And why wouldn't the person being so ill-treated speak against it? Because they might be characterized by their unloving family as "hating" them and "putting them down" for arguing and fighting against wrong policies and dehumanizing behaviours? Probably.
